WTF :oops:

General Musharraf has dismissed Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Mohammad Chodheee for no reason. I think General Musharraf cannot control on his lust of privatizing steel mill.

Its shame that they wanted to sell steel mill for price way less than the market value of its 'land' only.

Okz actually he The terminated cheif justice had disallowed to continue because musharraf used first time article 209 of constitution and mind it that prime minister(Shouka) adviced musharraf to do so and all this happened because of the letter i linked below must read the letter of naeem bokhari also for termination of CJ please check below link this will guide you about whole drama
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=290

For Letter Go And Read
A letter written by Supreme Court Advocate Naeem Bohkari addressed to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Mr. Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry-A must read story

http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2007/02/26/letter-to-cj-from-naeem-bokhari/


see also what the opposition says in this regards
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=292

Naeem Bokhari???? isn't he the same cat which started to lick General Musharraf's toes right after he came in power?

Even in his open letter 'all' allegations are just allegations no proof presented anywhere in his letter. As far allegations about 'protocol' and 'benefits' to relatives are concerned then Mr Naeem Bokhari has just born in pakistani society or he was blind in past.

Suspending publicly elected prime minister by one army man could be justified?
Selling whole steel mill for 10% price of its land only could be justified?
Why nobody filed reference against Shortcut Aziz and his buddy Arif Habib?
Why people in pakistan is lifted by agency for no reason presented in public?
Is there any justification of crime rate increase in whole pakistan?
Have you ever had experience with police station? They don't even file FIR without money.
Son of CM Punjab is head of dispossession group -- Naeem Bokhari knows about it?
Naeem Bokhari has ever seen protocol of Gen Musharraf? (whole city stops)
Justification of murder of ex CM of balochistan Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti by Army?
Any justification for price increases of everything which has not only pissed off poor only but also middle class?

There is also another side of the story..
Who bear CJ's decision about privatization of steel mill?

I think he is lucky that he is not taught lesson like Nawab Akbar.

Is pakistan a society or a jungle?

Yes Imran i totally agreed with you general wants to gain more and more power and it seems to me that he wants to be a king of pakistan with too much authority and how disappointing is that judiciary was when i saw the comments of Ex justices like justice sajjad ali shah and justice saeed-uz-zaman siddiqui...........lets see what happens next

Nothing is going to happen :(

Pakistan nation is slave of bureaucracy and unfortunately bureaucrats are courageless people having no pain and feeling for poor people and they are not there to defend ppl's interest they are enjoying their salaries + cars + bungalows and all illegtimate influence and protocols.

In this situation i see no sign of hope.

What happened after murder of Bugti? Nobody stood for him and cause of Balochs.

Pakistan is jungle and slaughter house for poor.

Imran Khan why you are always angry at mushee and pakistan?

Good Ask because he MUSHEE has done all wrong for pakistani nation and being nation we are soo sleepy to react on........................do you know the value of CHEIF JUSTICE he is an admisnistrator for justice now the provider of justice is handled in such cheap manner very sad I say about mushee the sun of_____ and bast__ he did all wrong may ALLAH(S.W.T) provide him full justice as he is nominated for hell(A'men) say A'men all.....

Good Ask because he MUSHEE has done all wrong for pakistani nation and being nation we are soo sleepy to react on........................do you know the value of CHEIF JUSTICE he is an admisnistrator for justice now the provider of justice is handled in such cheap manner very sad I say about mushee the sun of_____ and bast__ he did all wrong may ALLAH(S.W.T) provide him full justice as he is nominated for hell(A'men) say A'men all.....

Mariam Bajee Because Mushee is dictator and he knows his safety is in disorder and fragile structure of the nation. If nation started to get strong then he will be the first target of nation because he is a 'dictator' and came in power without vote of people .... though if you remember Mushee kicked off people's voted prime minister.

What he has done with Ex- CM of Balochistan?
Why he is licking Bush's toe and then treating us like dogs and cats?

Do you have experience with police station? courts?
Do you have eye on inflation?
Do you have eye on moral of society is dragged to bottom by Mushee ????

I am sad the damage this General Musharraf has done to Pakistan cannot be recovered even if he is captured and hanged till death unlimited number of times.

Good Point Amir Bhai Chief Justice dragged from his coat and shirt then his hair was snatched by SHO...

What we are showing to rest of the world?


We are simply a courageless nation ...

what we can do?????

Do we hav power to do anything?????

I just want answer why hairs of Chief Justice of Pakistan was snatched by SHO ?????????????????? I AM MAD

xxx

I have read truth about him after a long long time.

Nobody has voted them to rule on us. Musharraf is fully BayGayrat kind of person he doesn't care about feeling of common people he just want to remain in rule. In his team there are corrupt people and corruption is spread everywhere.

And opposition leaders are more khusee than poor nation of pakistan. They do nothing beyond statements.

Dear Imran Bhai I disagree that

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Opposition Leaders Are Khusee

Actually they aren't khussy.......... their is a fact that should be realized that oppositon consists of three big parties

1)PPPP(Pakistan Peoples Party parliamentarian)
2)MMA(Mutahhidh Majlis-e-Amal)
3)PML-N(Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz)

All three parties have their totally different curricullum and agenda such as PPPP has more of a secular agenda and they are more enlightened then mushee(ILLEGITIMATE CHILD) Infact 500% more Moderate then mushee.....So far as MMA is concerened it is of totally different agenda and there is an extreme contradiction between them i mean there is 180 degree difference between them.MMA is more islamic consolidated and conservative party with contrast to that PPPP which is more moderate, valgur, XXX babes party :lol: ............ so the greater alliance for which they usually talks and for the same reasoning they are going for APC(All Parties Conference)-UK...........Can not reasonably and logically be develop.
Now Lets Talk about PML-N this is neither Islamic nor secular this is a party for which you can say that they are more orthodox(Riwayat Pasand) version but not conservative because when talking about nawaz shareef i personally know him that he is of more islamic minded person and i also saw him lot of time in (Raiwand[the junction of tableghi jammat] Near Lahore) and as per our accountancy knowledge we know that the subordinates are 100% influential from their leaders so as his leadership is also inhereted to his party which reflects from their attitude...... So from above points we can conclude that MMA and PML-N can be a good alliance but PPPP can neither fit with MMA nor with PML-N..........................................so grand alliance can not be carpeted................... but here i also want to mention a great Charismatic leader The Great Legend Mr. Imran Khan(Formar Captian not you :lol: ).......... he is a very good very nice person and devote fully himslef against musharraf's policies he is also a religious influenced person and if he had 20% seats in National Assembly Musharraf can not hapefully be able to exist or servive any more..............lets hope for GOOD and be optimistic neither be too pessimistic .........

Regards
Muhammad Amir

Going in more detail about your above post i'll say that our political parties are 100% junk without any motivation and will of doing good they are just time pass people they are in politics because its their hobby.

Why i said 100% junk?
Because three parties you mentioned are actually just dummy parties they have no difference at all. Let me explain it how?

PPPP
Its illegitimate child of PPP formed by Shaheed Z.A Bhutto. If you recall what was the reason of Z.A Bhutto hanging and who was behind pushing of Zia ul Haq .... you will say America. In history of PPP[P] there are two extremes at one end Z.A Bhutto was standing for the cause of muslim nation/countries and concerned about proper usage of their resources and also didn't care about the warnings of America and at the end what happened .. we know.
On the other hand other extreme is that his daughter Benazir Bhutto after hanging of his father and passing 10 years in exile finally managed to get into power through back doors by negotiating with military tops. She learned from the death of his father that America is 'real' super power in political stage of the whole world and its not possible to stay safely by not accepting its guidelines so she has reverted from the path of his father which was 'cause' of muslim nation and their resources (broader politics). So i call PPP from 1989 as illegitimate child of PPP formed by Z.A Bhutto. But unfortunately people of pakistan are sleeping as usual and have not managed to know the difference between her vision and vision of his father. So she has inherited 'support' of pakistani people because of good face of her father.
In today scene its crystal clear that she is also not less 'licker' than Musharraf in any way when it comes about Washington. So they are like brother/sister both have illegitimate supports.

That's why Amir Bhai you also placed them alongside Musharraf.... (now i think its more clear)

PML
Ah .. you can say that i wrote about only PML(N) ... yep i know.
but its all one PML from PML of Peer Pgaro to Junyajo they are all one type of people. Because their roots are from original PML which was a modern party according to that time and lifestyle of muslims at that time. So they have both 'religious' and 'modern' element in them ... though they might not have proper blending.
After death of top notch leaders of PML after formation of pakistan it was hijacked by bureaucrats. And still its under complete influence of bureaucrats. That's why they always supported military hijacks. Its sole purpose is to support bureaucracy and nothing else.
Now about PML(N) i think its core has gone to PML(Q) to serve their agenda (to server bureaucracy).. Now PML(N) has not support from Military and Washington ... You will soon see it being dissolved completely. If you go in more details they have not any strong local leader in party. There is no future of PML(N) in politics of pakistan.

MMA
Actually its not political party its an alliance of so called 'religious' people. But i don't say them 'religious' because they are complete 'Munafiq'. They betray innocent religious people of pakistan they suggest different lifestyle to their followers and adopt different lifestyle for themselves.
Crystal Clear example is their role of 17th amendment and after approval of Women Protection Bill.
They have no support from Washington but traces of their support can be found in military of pakistan which is not enough to bring them on main stage to perform any significant role.
Its 100% clear that it was their first and last time that they got so many seats and you will see they will fall on face in next elections.

So far i discussed what i call 100% junk but unfortunately they have tricks to fool people and get vote. btw who care about votes? :P

I think only Imran Khan / Hameed Gul kind of persons have feelings of pain in their heart and soul but unfortunately they have never got vote .... and i think in next election Imran Khan will again remain under 10 seats in total both national and provinces.

You know our people don't ask for agenda or past of the candidate they just want to know whether he/she will give us any favor? That's it.
Favor could be good or bad.

Yes You are all right but i think your presumptions regarding MMA is too harsh so i 51% disagree to you because their are lot of things which should also take in to account as i will now mention you MMA's alliance structure.....
MMA Consists of

1)Jmmiat-e-Ulema-e-Islam(JUI)
=>JUI further divided in
>Jmmiat-e-Ulema-e-Islam[Moulana Fazular Rehman](JUI-F)
>Jmmiat-e-Ulema-e-Islam[Moulana Smi-ul-Haq](JUI-S)
Both the leaders have very different nature although same sect

2)Jammat-e-Islami(JI)

3)Jmmiat-e-Ulema-e-Pakistan(JUP)

So Party structures are clear i also want to mention here secteria look of these all parties.

1)Jmmiat-e-Ulema-e-Islam(JUI)
=>All groups and people of JUI are of Deobandi Sect and it was made by Mufti Mehmood (Rahmatullah-aliyh).

2)Jammat-e-Islami(JI)
=>JI also is Deobandi influanced party not actually deobandis because they are just a little different in the way that they follow their own interpretations to islam and Deobandis strongly rejects such own revelations.

3)Jmmiat-e-Ulema-e-Pakistan(JUP)
=>JUP is of Brelvi sect and they are followers of(Islam+Riwayt-o-Rasoomat)

All three parties have their own leadership so JUI has a vast percentage in assemblies nearly 90% of National,Proventioal Assembly and in senate.Jammat-e-Islami has 7% share in MMA and further JUP has 3% share in MMA.

So JUI's majority is specially held to have greater impact in overall decisions of MMA as whole.

JUI(F) leadership is very cool, calm and humbal. Actually when talking about 17th Ammendment Although they(MMA) were supported that ammendement but just because of Moulana Fazular Reman's influance other wise Qazi Hussain Ahmad and Moulana Sami-ul-Uaq has strong reservation in this regards.But Moulana Fazular Rehman is of different view he said that "i want that Army has to go with liberty that's why i support this ammendment so that at 31st december 2004 Musharraf will have to leave to remain army's respect in people's minds and hearts".
But latter it was foud that Musharrf has not complied with the promise so this is not MMA's mistake.........I am not a member of any of the party of MMA but i support them just because they will be able to do something for all of us................

After your above post ... i still stand by my viewpoint about MMA.
Now one question ...

If i accept that MMA didn't perform a role of "Londee' for Musharraf and their support for 17th amendment was honest.

Then my brother why they didn't resign on 1st January 2005 ???????????
General Musharraf betrayed them then what was the point to still sit in his rubber stamped assembly???????

Why they didn't start massive campaign to mobilize masses after 31st Dec 2004 ????????????

I said in my previous post that MMA's overall leadership is cool, calm, and humbal and they are also an alliance of different relegious sectarian political parties of pakistan so they took their decisions on the belief of unity so as their might be a some mistake in it otherwise i tell you that moulana fazlu-r-rehman is also a taliban's leader how can he support musharraf in destroying his own millitants...........never possible...............yet their might be something which persists them not to leave assemblies i don't foresee what that might be???????




OHHHHHHH Dear you are too much optimistic................mobilisation of people can't possible because they already disappointed because of country's conditions how can one person come out of his house when he didn't eat since last night..........................this can't be happen

Well, it means you agree what i said above in my post that political leaders are "KHUSEE".
I am not interested in excuses offered by them. What i know is that they have 'failed' to mobilize masses. And masses have not interest/trust in them.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :cry: :wink:

Oh my God you two guys have changed General Chat forum to full Political Forum :mrgreen:
Previously there was only Imran Bhai who used this forum for "Bhrass Nikalna" and now Amir bhai you are in his team :mrgreen:


I think now we need two supporters of Musharraf's govt so here will be full gurma gurm discussions. And i know political debaters have no need to take rest. They can discuss political situation whole day and whole night while sitting in "Chai ka Khoka". :mrgreen:

*I also don't like Musharraf's Govt but i have not much insight as you guys.

Hmmmmm nice to hear your views administratrix. Actually imran bhia's posts motivate me to post my hot views here for practical application of my "AKHBARI KNOWLEDGE" and now a much hot debate infact at 1000 degree centigrade....Also motivates you to take part init keep it on............I am very pleased to hear that you are also in opposition so we are three now....mind you this is not three it's something 33....but you siad that

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i have not insight as you guys

so don't bother we are here to polish your existing knowledge to make you an expert political commentator.... :lol: .........by the way which newspaper you read if you read none of the newspaper then there will be a nightmare for you to become a future political expert :oops: ............................ :lol: and your sayings regarding

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They can discuss political situation whole day and whole night while sitting in "Chai ka Khoka

It's ammanzing that you have too much knowledge about political discussion points like chai ka khoka, pathan ka hotel, pan ka khoka mind you i am niether panwari nor smoker :lol: ...................

You say you don't have political insight? :wave:

hmmm true

Maxxx are you a posting Machine or Human...........

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

President Musharraf is a gr8 leader in the Pakistan History

Okay guys - Calm down . This is only my perception and how I view things . I am a Muslim and a Pakistani and want best for my Country. So what I think is ...

No pakistan without Mushrraf!

You are right. Musharraf is a great leader, greater than Hitler. See, if you are a fan of Hitler you would like Musharraf ultimately.
Oh yes, no Pakistan without Musharraf. He won't leave the seat until Pakistan is vanished from the map. Then Musharraf will be gone and there will be no Pakistan.

I absolutely agree with "Lover Fellow"...

Although this topic requires long debates but if we see some realities we can come to know what really is the agenda of Perveze...

- People Like Him Because Of His "Rosha Khyal Version" where lewdness, vulgarity, gambling and other non islamic thoughts are provoking in common man, through Women Protection Act he gave protection to Lewds and brothels and so, as a matter of facts his support was very much appreciated in pakistani brothels...

-This Perveze and Shukat has sold our lucrative organisations like PTCL, KESC and they were even sold Steel Mills but by the help of Allah and courage of Chief Justice they were not able to sold this lucrative business to Arif Habib(a personal friend of Shukat Aziz and owner of Arif Habib Investments)...

-This Perveze and Co. has locked up MOHSIN-E-PAKISTAN Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan in contrast to our situation India has made Dr Abul Kalam(neuclear scientist of india) as their President...

-Perveze Musharraf has written in his books that he sold lot of Mujaheddens(both Arabs and Pakistani) to America in return of many Dollars...

-This Perveze has killed lot of innocent Muslims in Balochistan, Lal Masjid, Waziristan, Swat and Bajour and in reaction of these killings pakistan in now a days under the great offence of Suicide Attacks...

-This perveze has locked-up Chief Justaice not only CJ but also very very respectful members of Supreme Court, he also has shut the independant media through his Army...

-He is completely following the agenda of America to destroy pakistan...

There is lot to talk about him but i think these points are enough for any true pakistani and true muslim to refrain his self from unusual support of Perveze and Company...

Regards,

Muhammad Amir