mussaraf is not bad his badness is bad. may ALLAH show him the right path.dnt say anything against any body cause it is not hthe job of a good and great muslim.i are already weak if v ll do these things will it satisfy us. i think no.

What is Musharraf?

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

who does not perfomed well.hmm

i think he performed very well in his early years, from 1999 to 2002 . if u see GDP rate in these years then u agree with me he has given a new life to our currency and stock marked but after that he not peformed well.


Noman

Dear Mr Noman and Mr or Miss Laila,

Mr Perveze Musharraf is the worst enemy of Islam and Muslims his policies are anti islamic and anti muslim.

Mr Noman you are comparing GDP growth from 1999 to 2002 but have you ever heared or seen the number of people he has given to america by alleging them as members of Alqaeda he has killed so many innocent muslims in Waziristan, Swat, Balochistan, LAL Masjid, Bajour, Darrah AdamKhel and in karachi(on 12th may 2007).

Have you seen his policies that are totally unislamic, he has imposed Women Protection Act(the absolutely Vulgarity Act), hold marathon and basant and valentine day, have you read his book where the president of islamic state disclosed in his book that when he was in turkey his mother and father both were prominent dancers of turkey at that time.

He has crushed and ruined the islamic values under his feet’s and not only this but also he has divided our nation in two categories one is Roshan Khyal/enlightened moderates(agents of yahood-o-nassara and hypocrites) while other is Inteha pasands(true believers of islam and true muslims).

I hate Perveze and i hope Allah(S.W.T) will reward him for all of his evil and anti islamic deeds at the doom day.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

Dear Amir,

Now i also don't like mushraf, but if u read my post again in which i talked about his early years not current sitution. and now as per current sitution i strongly agree with ur point of view.

Have a nice day.

Noman

Dear Noman,

I am pleased to see your post that atleast you are also his opponent.

In my previous post I just try to illustrate his inside evil and Hypocrite policies.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

Hello Amir,

i understand your point of view and i think you also.... plz it's request to all forum members to pray for peace and calm in this battered land of ours. We may make a difference in not through action than praying atleast. Don't break this chain.


Have nice day to u amir and to all of forum members.

Noman

Thats what i didn't understand

I am with President Musharraf and i stand for a preimum Islamic state of Pakistan!

Now I agree with Laila that we should rather pray for him and stay calm even if the ruler is unjust. And this is according to the teachings of Prophet PBUH.

So Muhammad Amir , I appreciate that you are a very knowledgeable person but refrain from having a very open bitter opinion about a fellow Muslim just because you dont like him!

I hope you understand.

Regards

Dear Mr Asad Pervaiz,

You have said that you are a supporter of Preveze Busharraf(the biggest hypocrite) and his infidel policies. Furthermore, you have advised me to refrain myself from passing absolute statements on fellow muslim.

Although I do not need to indulge myself in the debate of what is right and what is wrong because it is my belief that everything will be clarified at the doom day but i think in reply of your post I need to clarify my stance.

Being a person and as per general humanitarian framework i have no personal enemity with him but being a strategist, prerogative and policy maker of the nation i have so many differences with him which are devised in to two layers.

==>Imposition of his thoughts on Society:: your beloved Perzeve Busharraf has imposed his valgur and lewd thoughts on pakistani society in the name of ROSHAN-KHYALI(i.e. Enlightened Moderation). He has appealed to enjoy Basant and Vallentine day as national events and he hold Marathone on the roads of lahore. Moreover, he has enacted and assented an Act named as "Women Protection Act" but it was not actually for the protection of women but for the protection of brothels, lewds and whores .He has dethroned Chief Justice from his chair. The inflation rate in his dictatorship is at the peak(i.e. ever time high inflation rate/Hyperinflation), pakistan is under the crises of shortages of wheat, electricity and so many things is his Rulership. Moreover, he has sold KESC, PTCL and other lucrative organisations of pakistan to private sector.

==>Killings of so many patriotic pakistanies:: your beloved Perveze Busharraf has killed so many pakistanies in Waziristan, Sawat, Balochistan, Bajour, Mehmand Agency and in Lal Masjid he has used white phosphorous on the innocent students of Lal Masjid. He has captured so many innocent Muslims in the name of Al-Qaida and sell them to America in return of $500 consideration per man.

Its now upto you whether you are with Perveze Hypocrite or not but saying that he is working in the favour of Muslim Ummah is absolutly wrong, Perveze Busharraf is an Agent of America and Yahood-O-Nassara and favouring him or his infidel policies means that you are indirectly supporting America to destroy Ummat-e-Muslima.

I hope i have calrified my stance.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir.

Politicians are always politicians.

Perveze Busharraf(the biggest hypocrite and proselyte) is not a politician he is the toe licker of America and Bush and he is the brutal enemy of Muslims and Islam. He has killed so many innocent Muslims in pakistan under the directives of Bush(Chairman of all Infidals and the agent of "Taghoot" and the brutal enemy of Islam) and washington(Hell on earth).

May Allah(S.W.T) save all of us from the wrong deeds of Perveze Hypocrite.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir.

Ok baba, he is not politician, fine :D

Whoever he is. Hope for the best.

Yes always optimistic.

But what is this "baba"(do you know urdu?????????), it would really be great if you know.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir.

Yes Dear I do know Urdu. I am living in London but I am from Islamabad... :lol:


Didnt you know it before? I think my name gives some indication, doesn`t it? If your Urdu is good then you must be aware of Mahjabeen which is an Urdu word meaning moon...

But how would it be really great if I know Urdu??? :roll:

At the outset of your name i know you are a pakistani currently living in the UK but i have seen so many pakistanies who do not know urdu. I am pleased to see that you know your language.



I meant to say that it would be great for any one who knows his/her language because it has been frequently evident that some people after leaving their country also forget their roots and indeed this the biggest problem of our pakistanies.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir.

Muhammad Amir ,

Your rude outset would make it impossible for anyone to speak to you

May Allah guide you

I stand for Premium Islamic state of Pakistan , not the heretical version and I support President Musharraf for that. And I believe he is better then those who in name of educative "madrasah"s hang a 9years old blind person from fan upside down just because he didnt learn the lesson and the boy died. I dont believe in those articles of constitutions which have failed to get our nation anything in past 40 years. I dont believe that a Preisdency is a one man show and he practically have right over entire nation . Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) has said that our deeds would be made as rulers above us .

I believe that we need to imrpove ourself , increase the knowledge capital and apply it and we need to remain united above all.

If I have made any statement above which has sounded rude then please forgive me . The first important thing we need now is to remain united and to love each other and be merciful amongst us . i love you as my brother and this is not a diplomatic statement.

Good luck with your studies.

I can never forget my language as I have spent my childhood in Rawalpindi...

I think i have already clarified my stance in my previous post.



From where you got this precious set of information please give us evidence of what you are saying and remember "BOHTAN" is the worse sin in our religion.

I think there is no need to disclose some important things in this public forum but for the sake of defence of your sordid statements i need to disclose these facts, firstly i want to tell you that i have very very close links with pakistan army(and specially with ISI[Inter Services Intelligance]) although i can't tell you about the nature of these relations but i can tell you about the general opinion of pakistan army and its current service core which is very bad for perveze busharraf. Similarly, the Ex-service personnel of pak army are also against perveze's policies and his brutal invasion on Lal Masjid, Sawat and other areas are now apparent. he has killed 3,000 innocent female students of lal masjid through the help of american swines.

BACHAY JITNI TUMHARI UMAR HAY UTNI MERI PAKISTAN KI STRATEGIC NATURE KI KNOWLEDGE HAY TO BEHTAR YEHI HOGA KAY JIN MAMLAAT KA PATA NAHI HAY UN PAY ZABAN BAND HE RAKHI JAY, OR AGAR PATA HAY TO EVIDENCES KAY SATH BAT KI JAY.

Hope you can understand.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

You havent seen the news due to ignorants , it was on air all over news channel 2 weeks back.

May Allah guide you and glad to know your hidden reality.

Edited............

Dear All,

Please do not forget this fourms are for educational purpose only, not for anybodys political views or likes/dislikes.. Let keep it clean from those stuff and keep it the studies.

Thanks

You are right Jawid.

These debates are unending and often create differences among people of varied frameworks and thoughts. So, one person can be good according to some people but a same person can not be good for other class of people.

But this does not mean that we should put a cap on expression of our views, we should express them, but we should give full repsect and should consider opinion of every one.(I am saying these lines to me not to anyone else).

Regards,

Muhammad Amir.

Agreed to above with Amir. And by the way this is the GENERAL FORUM..

We should repectfuly debate and its a part of our education and developing a good personality

So dont worri.

Acid

Agreed.

Hi everybody.

i read all ur debate . i dont want to say anything more but who in consious see this video closely..
speacially Assad pervaiz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f74oWOCaZfc

Starboy ,

Tell me your point what you want to make rather then showing some videos.

Dont expect me to buy this crap , a made up false video , a hoax . That's it . I dont want to say anything more.

Thanks..

chill yaar !
lols @ duality of baba

Video posted by starboy was fake. Albeit, the pictures of Iranian Presedient Ahmedi Njad were true.

The real life of our president and his staff is much more than this video.



Some times duality becomes inevitable.

I have some concerns over undue support of asad for perveze musharraf and co.

Read this storey.



For what its worth, Bilal Musharraf the Vice President of ePlanet Ventures and the son of General (r) Pervaiz Musharraf, is seen negotiating a deal with Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, Chairman of Kingdom Holding Companies. It is just a normal business deal but the question that remains is What does the Pakistani Ambassador to Saudi Arabia have to do in all this?

Can we speculate that these are the last minute favors being cashed in by Pervaiz Musharraf before he is truly pushed out of office and into the awaiting millions of dollars of accumulated wealth and business ventures which he has strategically located outside Pakistan in the last nine years of his rule.

Also, please read this letter by Salman(of Junoon) to Bilal on ill doings of Perveze Musharraf.

you can read the full storey on this blog.

http://blog.boltapakistan.com/2007/12/salamn-ahamd-writes-to-bilal-musharraf.html

Salamn Ahamd writes to Bilal Musharraf - An Open Letter

Dear Bilal,

Thanks for this shared e-mail. I’ve never publicly responded to you but am compelled to do so now. I’ll respond to the public part of your criticism of my changed stance against your father’s policies.For the record, my support for your father’s vision of “enlightened moderation” was never based on any personal expectations or “marketing” (rock musicians dont usually like hanging out with military dictators) My prior public support to your father’s govt. along with that of the vast majority of Pakistanis was given in the belief that he would deliver on his public promises to fight extremism, respect civil institutions,bring accountability to corrupt politicians, open up a free and independent media and reduce the immoral gap between Pakistan’s rich and poor. The picture that you took of me with your dad was taken in 2003,when I felt that the international media was cynically and wrongly depicting Pakistan as a total terrorist state being defended by “only” one pro-western moderate Pakistani, your father. Although i was ridiculed by many for doing so, but i chose to put that picture on the Junoon website after the assasination attempts on your father in December 2003. The picture was meant to symbolise the majority support of Pakistan’s civil society for the fight against extremism and lawlessness. That picture and my support for your father’s govt (WHICH YOU WOULD VOUCH,I HAVE NEVER ABUSED FOR PERSONAL GAIN NOR HAVE MY FAMILY OR FRIENDS) was never meant to be taken as a blank check for the state machinery to run amok and start dismantling civil institutions, making deals with crooks and plunderers, treating civil servants like common criminals, kidnapping and killing innocent Pakistanis under the guise of the “war on terror” and illegally spying, torturing and jailing thousands of Pakistanis (which include national heroes, supreme court judges, lawyers, rights activists, house wives and students).

My recent op-ed in the Washington post and my public disassociation with your father should not be a surprise to you. I wrote many candid e-mails to you in August and September of this year,sharing my concern about your father’s policies and his govt’s high handed tactics.You responded by saying I was being too harsh to which I reminded you that true friends are not meant to be mistaken for sycophants and cronies but are a True barometer of the public’s perceptions.You chose to ignore these warning e-mails and dismissed them as “emotionalism”. Even when you visited me while I was on tour in Canada in October, you promised that there would be no reason to impose emergency in Pakistan and you assured me that your father respects the judiciary and has spoken to the chief justice of the supreme court in this regard. Alas, even that myth has now been totally shattered. The supreme court judges are also citizens of Pakistan who have courageously tried to stick to the letter and the spirit of the law for which they are being punished by your father’s govt. Why is this so?

All that I write above is not just my view but the view of millions of Pakistanis and independent observers. I’m not writing out of spite or revenge but conveying the voice of Pakistan’s not so silent majority. As an artist I have also publicly criticized previous Pakistani rulers who like your dad made the mistake of not respecting civil society or civil institutions and I will continue to do so in the future as well. Staying silent is no longer an option, Art disturbs and artists have no choice but to listen to their conscience.

Yours Sincerely,
Salman Ahmad

My bro this video hv nothing like the lier kind of musharff polices and i know u r the fellow of ur musharraf but kindly i want to say that all pakistani people hearts or not def and dull some people still hv the light in thier eyes abt Pakistan future .Your motivation to hypocrist , never changes the every man mind abt lier musharff.
And if u want some more info about the ahmadinejad with ref i think studing after this u cant say that wikipedia is wrong bez this means whole world is wrong but not u .....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad

Dear Starboy,

I am against Musharraf more than you. I am not supporting his policies but I am just saying that one should not post fake videos of Musharraf this is not the right way, we should talk with evidences so that our case become more strong.

Ahmedi Njad was a great leader. I have full respect of him and I salute to him on his strickt policies against Bush(the worst Infidel on Earth). One more thing which I need to add here is that this was the same Iran which was used to be the biggest fuel supplier of Israel and was used to be the lunching pad of Israel in 1967 war of Israel against our muslim countries of Egypt and other arab countries.

I am just saying that we should look at the history bofore making our decisions and before supporting and rejecting others.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

What is fake in this video ok i agree this pictures on the screen is fake but behind de screen all this happen just as same in de video.. I respect ur regards but this time i fined u just same as like as de pppp who says that the disposal of mushaarf is not easy bez constitution not allows us but the man who hv done all the wrongs in his reign and if u today heard the AQ khan interview on ARY oneworld he says that on this busted intruction the secret cameras are fitted in his house and he says even they fit and place the cameras in the bedroom of aq khan and also his daughter in law room . wht a shame for us ,,,, this shows de mind thoughts of fake musss.
and what he do with de sisters of imran khan .i cant say anything bez its too much..

In short, near 2 me i m right and every person is right regardless of using the fake material against muss ....bez he just deserve this nothing more else..

and what u say about these videos . its never happen before lakin mus na yeh b sach kar dekhaia ..he is just a bloody grip ,tunnker and mericon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhDrf0uOwbg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL05bzf8jSg&feature=related

just see our flag is in de hand of those bitches, about which american times and aljazeera said that these ladies also doing a prostitution and used just like tissue paper in de sin city of usa..wht is this ,we totally lost our respect ..

u know bro amir when i disuss abt the beauty of muslims girls civilization with my spanish frnd , he gives me this video in response and i hv nothing in response but silence.....

this all happen due 2 muss polices . video is not fake he himself is fake..

and also my bro amir 6 days war of 1967 is not equal to de the mushraaf 11 years of injustice and cruelty

and according 2 my info iran had not been involved in a such kind of activites

Read this

http://www.emetnews.org/analysis/america-and-the-six-day-war.php

Iran and Turkey were used to be the launching pads of Isrel when Isreli forces attacked Egypt and related arab countries although their help ws not direct perhps throught the interface of America. You can search it from history books of arab-Israeli War.

Anyway, Musharraf is our enemy and he is the enemy of our religion s well, we have to do something for him and his merican allies.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir.

M . Amir has made my point , my only reasoning was that this video contained fake data although the picture of Irainian president were true and I also agree that our weddings are 100x more luxorious then that unforutnately.

Probably If i insist on a simple wedding such as that then peoplr will start calling me fool , eccentric , fanatic and tell me that i dont want to enjoy the life ! Thats a sad situation!.

@ Various other above posts , As i didnt wanted to debate but just comment on the video , i would breifly say that let his son do whatever he wants , what we should give a damn about is what he is doing for our nation. Nawaz and Altaf and Zaradai are much more corrupt then these.

You dont like his ways or doing stuff and I have a different opinion. that is perfect.


@ Starboy : Please mind your language neither me nor muhammad amir is in in support of hypocrisy and I told repeatedly that I stand for a premium Islamic nation and If to dream of that is like hypocrisy for you then you are the national hypocrite. you have no right to call someone a hypocrite just because he dont think the same way you do , understand?

If you cant control yourself then please dont talk politics.

Regards

@Starboy : Prostitution and immoral girls act had been much common since before the act of Musarraf.. He doesnt go on and tell " ok pakistani girls show ur bodies and become immoral" .

Go and look at ur family and even in my family and in our society If u tell them that we should change our extravaganza marriage ceremonies they will mock at us.


You should debate against Musharraf and you should bring VALID anti points agains him like MUHAMMAD AMIR did in previous posts. They are all valid and debatable but dont bring articles which doesnt have any meanings.

Regards

@starboy : The reason you were silenced infront of your spanish friend was because of your lack of argumentation sense . If you were right then you would never have been silenced infront of him.If only you could resort to some ingenious studies rather then beliving in made up videos and claiming that to be the proof you should have told your spanish friend that this video is just few girls and is considered as "hypocrisy/immoral" in our religion,society and culture and is NOT A PART oF OUR CULTURE! You shuld remind him of how sexual preferences , incest and premartial sex and nakedness is a respected part of there culture.

So dont blame ur lack of knowledge now to musharraf too.

Regards

@ All commentors , readers , speculators : All this forms a part of my opinion and I am not a perfect man and prone to making mistake just like you .

I am a clear religious person and a proud Pakistani .

And I enjoy these comments & thank the posters for there valuable insight which is of my benefit.

Regards

It amazes me how people dont take a minute before ridiculing the leaders.

I remember clearly when musharraf over threw nawaz govt. people all over pakistan were dancing like crazii!!!

And now the situation is vice versa.

Everytime they support a leader..which turns out to be corrupt...then again people start supporting other corrupt leaders...when they come people rejoice...after 2 year they again start crying.

Yet what's amazing is we never got rid of ALL CORRUPT LEADERS at once i.e. nawaz , bhutto etc.

What does this points out to? You be the judge...

I dont believe that we can bring back the shariah law in our nation with any of the corrupt reforms/leaders/government present on the land of Pakistan.

There will be some other way.

May Allah - The possessor of power and might help us all.

@starboy: I dont understand what does that miss pakistan have to do with musharaf policies? Did musarraf told her to do and take part in that competition???/

She took part in AMERICA okay? and Even Musharraf or any other leader cant control people actions in our countries!!!

It's her wish. If tomorrow some european prostitites hold Pakistan flag and tell her that i m pakistani prostitute than would that make her pakistani or would u again start blaming musharraf???

ha!

@ Muhammad Amir : Just to chip in something : You made great valid point above re israel although the need of time is to remain united with Iran but we should know the history too. And We shouldnt forget that many of the Iranian's as per my personal experience with them mock our Shahbas and all. They throw ideological attacks at our society and religion as well as supported our enemies and america does physical attacks. Plus they The former is worse then the latter.

But there are many good people too from Iran, I have some real good friends who are 7'ers from Iran.
So we should look at both sides of the coin.

REgards

Ist of all i want 2 know brother where i overflow and where i loose my contro. but way u r witing these lines and in de other posts of ur views abt my little knowledge its shows that u totally loose ur control and limits. so plz b in ur limits u r just pinching like a boil egg . ok i admit that i hv no knowledge but wht r u doing, still i cant understand u in this whole dialogue, either u with mush or with amir or my point of views so plz stop these double standard. but i appreciate on one thing that u hv one same quality which mush also have and that is
DOUBLE STANDARD
my activate brother u say that i stop in front of my spainish frnd due 2 lack of my knowledge but i say no brother i always try to give whole structure and info abt our peaceful relegion ISLAM. but u know if abroad people involve these type of activities, than these representers crush our tradition in abroad countries , bez these abroad nationalist just see what r continuing in there countries they hv no concern whts held in pakistan. we r not just pakistani in these abroad countries but also de ambassadors so i feel u give some time with ur great mind on this word ambassador..

in response of this i just want 2 say search de programme of Nadia khan show in which mahleej sarkari and her sceratery show thier views in de shoW. her scertary says we like mush polices and mush play an important role for us to take entry in this vulgar competition, and during this show 1 man call and criticizes on de moderate Secretary and she replies that whith the bless of mush we do this in future in pakistan .. ok man b ready when they came 2 ur country and do this than u criticize on me, i m absoulatey wrong i should touch this topic when this show arrange in pakistan but i did a mistake 2 touch this topic before . sorry for this haaa.

So forum i give no further comments on this topic . every body hv thier own views and according 2 Human rights act 1998 every body hv liberty 2 share thies view and i respect all de views including sir pervaiz.if i hurt some one i apologize

i know 1 thing if i hv no knowledge but DR israr ahmad also pointing de same thing which i want in this


http://javeria.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/dr-israr-advises-musharraf-to-call-it-a-day/

Well , You called muhammad amir thinking apparently that he pro mush so he is supporting hypocrisy. But in all this It's me who is supporting him so after getting the name right you infact are calling me.

I am happy that you speak with a good tone here unlike some people here who never seem to admit there faults and I accept and regret losing my control. And I am sure you wil accepy my apology.

Brother first we should understand that a president or in today's world a leader cannot control actions of its people living abroad. As you said that we are all ambassadors of our nation so its our duty and upto us how we fulfill it , Unforuntately our people when they go abroad they forget there root and culture and there duties. miss pakistani is one such worst person.

I am very happy to know you that you are trying your best to promote the image of ISLAM which in history always stood for peace , equality , humanity and as a terrorist to all anti-social elements and those who wish to upset the rest in the nation.

About this nadia khan show thing , I havent seen it but certainly I'll not base my opinion on just few of these tv artist because on tv there are many other people who even say that musharraf is a very great muslim. so the question remains to the base as to is he right or is he wrong? So i prefer to have my own opinion.

Please continue to keep up the good work for faith and may Allah reward you and help you and in future If you need any help regarding questions pretaining to faith then please always consider me of help.


Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) told us that nations were detroyed in past as they used to dispute with each other. So I think we should follow his advice and debate in a manner as far as its constructive.

I have made my points and I will continue if i feel something comes across on which I have knowledge to comment. I will not respond to personal critisim of each other as it only needs to hatred for each other which is not good.

Best wishes.

Also,

no knowledge is better then little knowledge.

Keep in mind EVERYONE.

Regards

Dear Asad And StarBoy,

You both are fighting for futile matters. We should think every thing in broder perspective.

Musharraf is a dictator(No Doubt) but still some of his policies were in favour of pakistan which are.

-Improvement of Taxation System in our country, No doubt musharraf has made some rigorous policies for tax payers which in turn increased our revenue generation capacity.

-Relatively Low Corruption in his era(as compared to PPP's and PML's regime), No doubt musharraf's era(1999 to 2003) was good in controlling corruption in our country however, his PML(Q) used to be the king's party from 2002 to 2007 was consist of fully corrupt people and they severely damaged musharraf's regime and his policies(i.e. the politicians like Chudharies and Afgan Niazi made severe damages to musharraf).

-Improvement in earning potiential per man. No doubt in his era earning potiential of people increased per capita.

-Musharraf was used to be monitered by MI-6(British Intellegence) and you will be amazed after hearing that Shaukat Aziz(Ex PM) was the planted agent of MI-6 in Pakistan. Similarly the current Governor of Punjab(Salman Taseer) is also an agent of MI-6 and he reports directly to them(MI-6) about the current developments in pakistan.

-Musharraf's subordinates were all corrupt people and they made severe damages to him.

But, on the other hand some of his policies were absolutely against Islam and Pakistan and are;

-Army Intervention in Independent Qabiali Areas. These areas have their own history and Musharraf has to use other channels to solve problems like JIGRAS etc.

-Army Operations in Balochistan. Although Indian Intelligence Agency(RAW) is backing up BLA(Baloch Liberation Army) of Akbar Bugti but he has to solve this problem through talk not with bombardment.

-Army Operation in Lal Masjid. This was the worse act of him and he will have to pay for the bloods of 3,500 innocents of Lal Masjid at Youm-ul-Akhirah-Insha Allah.

Hi Muhammar Amir,

You have gained many of my votes now . You showed a very rational behaviour by appreciating what he did well and degrading him where he did worse.

This is the type of behaviour which I expect for qualified people like you and all of us.

And yes , everyone should note this , We should look at 2 sides of coin and always use the truth to support the falsehood and not to believe in some crappy videos otherwise we lose our weight.


According to the closest companaion of the Prophet (PBUH) we should support a leader where he is right and disobey him where he is wrong.

Regards

The only way to get the things right is this >>

Either I should become the President of Pakistan or Muhammad Amir should become and either of us should become the Prime Minister :lol: .

We will beat evil hard!

@ MUHAMMAR AMIR : Dont try to act like a ........ ..

You are no one to tell a unbeliever that he will go to hell far away be a believer. You have no right to call a Muslim or even a Non Muslim that he will go to hell.

These are matters with The Lord who alone know the unseen. You have no right to say such a thing .

So dont try to pass such cindy remarks about others please.

Regards

First of all I wish I would be a president of pakistan(I know America will not recruit me for this position).

I always appreciate people who analyse the situation in both ways.



I think you have not seen the barbarism of Perveze Musharraf in LAL-MASJID. He used white phosphorouse to kill and burn the dead bodies of Shuhada(Martayers) of Lal-Masjid. I will not blame Army(as a whole) for this and other operations because their trainning says "Obey first, Think Later". I can't forget the barbrism of Pakistan Army and Perveze Musharraf.

doesnt matter,

Oppose as you want , but dont say that they wil go to hell ! Only Allah knows best.